(Via Tapped), the New York Times' Doug Jehl reports that the National Intelligence Council got some other major predictions about Iraq right, that the White House would rather us not know about:
The same intelligence unit that produced a gloomy report in July about the prospect of growing instability in Iraq warned the Bush administration about the potential costly consequences of an American-led invasion two months before the war began, government officials said Monday.
The estimate came in two classified reports prepared for President Bush in January 2003 by the National Intelligence Council, an independent group that advises the director of central intelligence. The assessments predicted that an American-led invasion of Iraq would increase support for political Islam and would result in a deeply divided Iraqi society prone to violent internal conflict.
One of the reports also warned of a possible insurgency against the new Iraqi government or American-led forces, saying that rogue elements from Saddam Hussein's government could work with existing terrorist groups or act independently to wage guerrilla warfare, the officials said. The assessments also said a war would increase sympathy across the Islamic world for some terrorist objectives, at least in the short run, the officials said.
The contents of the two assessments had not been previously disclosed. They were described by the officials after two weeks in which the White House had tried to minimize the council's latest report, which was prepared this summer and read by senior officials early this month.
Last week, Mr. Bush dismissed the latest intelligence reports, saying its authors were "just guessing'' about the future, though he corrected himself later, calling it an "estimate.''
The assessments, meant to address the regional implications and internal challenges that Iraq would face after Mr. Hussein's ouster, said it was unlikely that Iraq would split apart after an American invasion, the officials said. But they said there was a significant chance that domestic groups would engage in violent internal conflict with one another unless an occupying force prevented them from doing so.
Senior White House officials, including Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, have contended that some of the early predictions provided to the White House by outside experts of what could go wrong in Iraq, including secular strife, have not come to pass. But President Bush has acknowledged a "miscalculation'' about the virulency of the insurgency that would rise against the American occupation, though he insisted that it was simply an outgrowth of the speed of the initial military victory in 2003.
The officials outlined the reports after the columnist Robert Novak, in a column published Monday in The Washington Post, wrote that a senior intelligence official had said at a West Coast gathering last week that the White House had disregarded warnings from intelligence agencies that a war in Iraq would intensify anti-American hostility in the Muslim world. Mr. Novak identified the official as Paul R. Pillar, the national intelligence officer for the Near East and South Asia, and criticized him for making remarks that Mr. Novak said were critical of the administration.
. . .
One of the intelligence documents described the building of democracy in Iraq as a long, difficult and potentially turbulent process with potential for backsliding into authoritarianism, Iraq's traditional political model, the officials said.
. . .
The officials' descriptions portray assessments that are gloomier than the predictions by some administration officials, most notably those of Vice President Dick Cheney. But in general, the warnings about anti-American sentiment and instability appear to have been upheld by events, and their disclosure could prove politically damaging to the White House, which has already had to contend with the disclosure that the National Intelligence Estimate prepared by the council in July presented a far darker prognosis for Iraq through the end of 2005 than Mr. Bush has done in his statements.
Here's the whole piece.
Yet more evidence Bush and his advisors were driven primarily by wishful thinking in shutting out the evidence and refusing to countenance the tough planning and commitment of resources needed to prevent post-war Iraq from turning into a terrorist-riven Lebanon.
Every day we hear about attacks on suspected safe houses in Fallajuh or Sadr City, based on (?) intelligence information (?). I keep wondering, does Bush even see the contradiction between the CIA's guesses and the vital intelligence that leads us to bomb women, children, and maybe Al- Zarquawi?
Posted by: PetervE at September 28, 2004 04:37 PMWe all know the answers as to why Georgie refused to plan for post-Saddam chaos. Darth Vader aka Big Dick told him not to worrry, it will be all taken care of.
I hope that the soldiers are now in Iraq lay down their arms and go home. Let Georgie and Dicky fight their enemies.
Posted by: kim at September 28, 2004 04:47 PM...tough planning and commitment of resources needed to prevent post-war Iraq from turning into a terrorist-riven Lebanon.
Even with all the tough planning in the world, this operation could very well have ended up a disaster anyway. Essentially we're trying to stitch 2 countries together -- Iraq and Kurdistan -- while all the neighbors want us to fail. And the truth is that we probably don't have enough troops to occupy this country without a draft, and not enough translators under any circumstances.
The Democrats can complain all they want about Bush's tactics, but it's the strategy, stupid.
Posted by: Carl at September 28, 2004 04:59 PM"It took five years of war before I recognized the higher loyalty all officials owe to the Constitution, the rule of law, the soldiers in harm's way or their fellow citizens."
-- Daniel Ellsberg.
"I swear to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America."
First words of the oath of office given to every president, (as well as military and government workers); the primary guiding principle for every president and every citizen of the United States of America.
Posted by: Manoppello at September 28, 2004 05:06 PMHas anyone thought that the result in Iraq is exactly what Bush and Co. wanted? Chaos. US casualties have been high, but Iraqi casualties are much higher. The price of oil is high, too, which only benefits the Saudis, and oil companies.
Plus, it looks like war is good for him politically, fear works in US politics....besides Rumsfield originally didn't want to attack Afghanistan because there weren't any 'good targets' (maybe he hates Walmart, sorry)
It just seems that war is good for keeping people like president Bush in power......
Posted by: JGW at September 28, 2004 07:03 PMReporter Jim Lobe offers quite a different profile of Feith:
http://www.antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=2614
If Lobe is to be believed, the JAG (military attorneys) point to Feith as the official responsible for loosening standards of torture. Lobe cites a former JAG, who is now chairman of the Committee for Human Rights of the New York Bar Association -- a fairly unimpeachable source. But, this is only the most salient initiative Lobe attributes to Rumsfeld's No. 2.
Posted by: else at September 28, 2004 08:00 PM"Who knew he was a ham radio enthusiast?"
Wasn't there a family dog they could have trotted out?
"he said he had about 90 minutes "to do my life and see my wife and four kids." It's not much of an existence," he said, "outside of the work."
Isn't that what they all say when they're about to "retire"?
Posted by: sofia at September 28, 2004 09:28 PMA new French diplomatic initiative appears to be to convince the US to withdraw completely from Iraq. They claim that only then can a peace conference be held. Is this the harbinger of the Iraq strategy to be employed by John Kerry?
http://www.lastampa.it/Speciali/iraq2004/articoli/art040928.asp
IL MINISTRO DEGLI ESTERI FRANCESE RIACCENDE LE TENSIONI TRA PARIGI E WASHINGTON
The French Foreign Minister increases tensions between Paris and Washington.
«Conferenza di pace solo dopo il ritiro dall’Iraq»
Peace Conference after withdrawal from Iraq.
Barnier: al tavolo anche la resistenza armata
Barnier: the armed resistance must be brought to the table.
di Cesare Martinetti
"Via le truppe americane da Baghdad o niente conferenza di pace, alla quale devono essere invitate anche le forze della resistenza armata. Così dice la Francia, alzando improvvisamente il tono del dibattito internazionale il giorno dopo l'uccisione di un francese in Arabia Saudita. Una notizia che ha innescato una nuova ragione di tensione a Parigi. Il Quay d'Orsay annuncia che ormai «la sicurezza dei compatrioti all'estero è il primo obbiettivo della diplomazia francese». Intanto è da più di un mese che i giornalisti Georges Malbrunot e Christian Chesnot sono sequestrati dai terroristi dell'Esercito islamico, gli stessi che hanno assassinato Enzo Baldoni. Cresce l'angoscia ma anche i dubbi sulla strategia seguita per cercare di liberarli. E di loro, non si sa più nulla."
All American troops out of Baghdad or no peace conference, to which the armed reistence would also be invited. Thus speaks France, abruptly raising the tone of the International debate a day after the killing of a Frenchman in Saudi Arabia. A sign that a new level of tension had been triggered in Paris. Quay d'Orsay announced that from now on "the security of our citizens abroad is the primary French diplomatic objective." Meanwhile it has been just over a month since journalists Georges Malbrunot and Christan Chesnot were captured by terrorist of the Islamic Army, the same organization that assassinated Enzo Baldoni. The agony increases but also doubts on the strategy followed seeking to liberate them. And of them, nothing more is known.
Ieri mattina è stato il ministro degli Esteri Michel Barnier ad approfittare di quello che i giornali francesi hanno definito il «virage», cambio di linea, di Bush sull'Iraq e cioè dell'apertura della Casa Bianca all'idea di una conferenza internazionale. «Se si vuole che questa conferenza abbia luogo - ha detto Barnier - bisogna che all'ordine del giorno sia iscritta la questione del ritiro delle truppe americane». Una questione che è già «posta dalla situazione in Iraq». E cioè: «caos, insicurezza crescente anche nella zona verde». In sintesi, ha riassunto il capo della diplomazia francese, l'Iraq è ormai un «buco nero».
Yesterday morning, the French Foreign Minister Micheh Barnie, after having been appraised of definite "proof of life" of those two French journalists, changed his stance on Bush and on Iraq, that is opening the possibility of an International Conference with the white house.. "If we want this conference to take place" - said Barnier - "it is necessary that the order of the day be written as taking up the matter of the withdrawal of American troops". A question that is already "at the heart of the situation in Iraq". And that is, "chaos, insecurity growing even within the green zone." Essentially, the head of French Diplomacy's brief is that Iraq is already a "black hole".
La conferenza ha senso - si dice qui - se potrà discutere dell'ipotesi massima e cioè il ritiro delle truppe americane prima della «pacificazione», come peraltro è stato adombrato nei giorni scorsi anche dal Pentagono. Ma a questa conferenza, ha aggiunto ancora Parigi, dovranno poter partecipare l'insieme delle forze politiche irachene, «comprese - parole di Barnier - quelle che hanno scelto la via della resistenza armata».
It is said here that the conference makes sense if one is able to draw the great powers into discussion about the withdrawal of the American troops before "pacification", just as seemingly foreshadowed in the last few days by the Pentagon. But Paris would also be adjunct to this conference, they must participate together with Iraqi political forces., "comprised" - words of Barnier - "of those who have chosen the path of armed resistance".
Posted by: Manoppello at September 28, 2004 10:47 PMI don't believe that the U.S. attack on Iraq either turned out much like the administration imagined or much different from their imaginings. Rather, I don't believe they even cared. Part of the raison d'etre for our overthrow of the Baathist regime in Iraq was plainly articulated by William Kristol (in a sort of homage a Robert Bartley): namely, the U.S. needs to prove to the world - and in particular Islam - that it too can cultivate a sort of bloodlust. This for two reasons: like the blood of the crucufied Jesus falling on the skull of Adam at the base of the cross - and thereby redeeming it, so the blood of Americans in Iraq redeems American "exceptionalism" from the (moral) ambiguity of our Vietnam experience. Also, it seemingly makes Bush's rhetoric of "crusade" real: that is to say, the description of our post-9/11 mania as a "crusade" is the one authentic pronouncement to emerge from this whole apotheosis of reaction. The spilling of American blood is to be understood - outside of America - as evidence of our commitment to crusade, the re-Christianization of American projective culture.
This is about catharsis and transformation. If one ever stopped to contemplate 9/11, beyond it being just another example of injustice in the world - welcome to reality - its real threat is that it plainly and profoundly revealed the Un-"exceptional" nature of America. It announced the end of "manifest destiny". Rather than letting this sink in, better to wreak vengeance on the whole plenum of reality. In this sense, Bush's twelve-step apocalypticism must make internal sense: America has not been domestically attacked again, and an orgy of bloodletting has been unleashed in Armagedddon-land.
What I don't understand is why Bush and his surround cannot bring themsleves to honor the war dead. This would be a huge step - beyond Protestant stoicism - in returning to a traditional culture's central emphasis on martial values.
Posted by: comenius at September 28, 2004 10:55 PMI note that this piece of history was not included in the Philadelphia Inquirer article. It might be relevant given both the processes used and decisions made relative to Iraq.
"As a youth, his father, Dalck Feith, was active in pre-World War II Poland in Betar, a militantly Zionist movement and forerunner of Israel's Likud Party."
Posted by: Manoppello at September 28, 2004 11:25 PMFrom the BBC:
Israeli troops have shot dead a mentally ill Palestinian during a raid in Jenin refugee camp in the West Bank.
The man's death came as Palestinians prepared to mark the fourth anniversary of their intifada against the Israeli occupation in the West Bank and Gaza.
An Israeli military source said the man was climbing a fence surrounding an army outpost and refused calls to stop.
The operation is said to be the biggest in Jenin for months with hundreds of Israeli troops searching houses.
An Israeli military source said soldiers were looking for militants and explosives in the Jenin refugee camp.
Israeli officers' criticism
Medics said Saleh Bilalu, who is known to have a history of mental illness, died of a bullet wound to the chest.
Israeli military sources had earlier told Israel radio that he had been climbing up a house occupied by troops who shot him in the legs and he had been killed by the fall.
Israel's policies in the occupied territories have came under fire from four senior members of an elite Israeli air force unit who describe the military's action as "immoral".
In a letter published by Israeli newspapers on Tuesday, the four expressed special concern about the demolition of Palestinians' houses, but included other examples of alleged collective punishment of the Palestinian population.
The letter said they wanted to spark debate about army operations, and distanced themselves from so-called refuseniks - those Israelis who refuse to serve in the West Bank and Gaza.
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Posted by: Manoppello at September 29, 2004 12:44 AMWait a sec. Feith had the GALL to describe his detractors' descriptions of his role in postwar-Iraq planning as "wildly unconnected to reality"?
That's rich.
Posted by: the Confidence Man at September 29, 2004 02:59 AMComenius,
We are living, not in a martial, but in a corporate society, where the sacrifices by “employees” are not to be exaggerated. A martial social hierarchy is determined by prowess on the battlefield, the very last factor that our current chicken-hawkracy would want determining our pecking order. Breeding, wealth and ideology suit them better.
While you are very correct to site the desire to maintain American’s exceptional status as a leading rationale for going to war in Iraq; exceptionalism also occurs beween social classes. Military service, taxes and social insecurity are becoming birthrights of our elite to avoid. Making a fuss over of a couple “employee” deaths might get the natives acting out of station; might shine a light on the maldistribution of suffering between social classes; might make America soft; and might even lead some to question America’s manifest destiny to rule the world.
Isaiah Berlin, was quoted as saying towards the end of his life, “there are 567 people in this world and I know them all.” Berlin was being sarcastic about his chumminess with high-society, but does anyone really doubt that while there may be some discussion about the exact number, this kind of pyramidal corporate social model is pervasive in minds of the current American leadership. If you are not one of those 567, your sacrifice really doesn't matter.
Kevin~
I must spend a little time digesting your thoughtful response. However, it immediately provokes the thought that the ongoing conflation between private "contractors" (such as those roasted and suspended in Fallujah) and military "regulars" is not unintentional. Yet all the moving parts, especially the financial differentials, are somewhat hard for me to meaningfully conceptualize.
What is less hard to conceptualize is that beyond the military corps, both regular and private (although what in Iraq - and progressively in America - is not an adjunct of the military bureaucracy?), there are legions of "third world" workers being imported into Iraq. It seems this is happening for at least a couple of reasons: a) the work is too hard to appeal to Americans; b) the U.S. fundamentally distrusts ALL Iraqis, so they could not even be considered; c) the U.S. corporations running the ops make a vertiginous mark up on third world labor - plus, no one "back home" is ever going to be the wiser to their treatment.
In short, the absolute depth of U.S. immorality is frankly too black to even contemplate.
Posted by: comenius at September 29, 2004 11:37 AM"she's not going to die because of payback for a bad foreign policy."
Laura,
After reading your taken on Kristen Breitweiser I must say that I believe that the last sentence should come first. It is important that the United States stand on the principles and spirit set forth in the Constitution and Declaration of Independence before anything else. Will doing this ensure security for her 5 year old? No, it would likely mean that there would always be some clear and present danger. It may sound maudlin, Kapra-esque, or naieve, but, it would give her 5 year old, and her progeny something so much more priceless. The legacy of freedom and at least some self-determination. The ability to become the unique person that she was created to be. In a land where security comes first this could never be.
And, as Viktor Frankl said, freedom, and the great power that comes with it, must come with responsibility. The United States must get back to its Guiding Principles, no matter how much it costs, or hurts. It is not just a question of morality it truly is a matter of survival.
Posted by: Manoppello at September 29, 2004 12:27 PMPresident Eisenhower's Son Endorses John Kerry
http://blog.johnkerry.com/blog/archives/002976.html#more
Why I will vote for John Kerry for President
By JOHN EISENHOWER
As son of a Republican President, Dwight D. Eisenhower, it is automatically expected by many that I am a Republican. For 50 years, through the election of 2000, I was. With the current administration’s decision to invade Iraq unilaterally, however, I changed my voter registration to independent, and barring some utterly unforeseen development, I intend to vote for the Democratic Presidential candidate, Sen. John Kerry.
The fact is that today’s “Republican” Party is one with which I am totally unfamiliar. To me, the word “Republican” has always been synonymous with the word “responsibility,” which has meant limiting our governmental obligations to those we can afford in human and financial terms. Today’s whopping budget deficit of some $440 billion does not meet that criterion.
Responsibility used to be observed in foreign affairs. That has meant respect for others. America, though recognized as the leader of the community of nations, has always acted as a part of it, not as a maverick separate from that community and at times insulting towards it. Leadership involves setting a direction and building consensus, not viewing other countries as practically devoid of significance. Recent developments indicate that the current Republican Party leadership has confused confident leadership with hubris and arrogance.
Comenius,
The employees I refer to are the lower ends of the social economic structure within the United States. I was trying to make an analogy between the social structure of the US and the hierarchy of a corporation. The soldiers who are dying are from poor or lower middle class backgrounds. Replace “employees” with poor and perhaps it will make more sense. It sure was clear in my head but I see by rereading my comment that it was less clear there.
I am happy that John Eisenhower has seen the light and come over from the dark side but he really should think a bit more before he goes around saying things like:
"Responsibility used to be observed in foreign affairs. That has meant respect for others. America, though recognized as the leader of the community of nations, has always acted as a part of it, not as a maverick separate from that community and at times insulting towards it."
Uh, John, I hate to break this to you , but you're father's Administration (with Ike's written approval) overthrew the DEMOCRATICALLY elected government of Iran in 1953 and then, for an encore performace, Ike authorized the overthrow of the DEMOCRATICALLY elected government of Guatamala in 1954. Bush, as incompetent as he is, actually overthrew a dictator. Which is worse?
Here is an excerpt from a NY Times special on the Iranian coup:
The operation, code-named TP-Ajax, was the blueprint for a succession of C.I.A. plots to foment coups and destabilize governments during the cold war — including the agency's successful coup in Guatemala in 1954 and the disastrous Cuban intervention known as the Bay of Pigs in 1961. In more than one instance, such operations led to the same kind of long-term animosity toward the United States that occurred in Iran.
The history says agency officers orchestrating the Iran coup worked directly with royalist Iranian military officers, handpicked the prime minister's replacement, sent a stream of envoys to bolster the shah's courage, directed a campaign of bombings by Iranians posing as members of the Communist Party, and planted articles and editorial cartoons in newspapers.
Two days after the coup, the history discloses, agency officials funneled $5 million to Iran to help the government they had installed consolidate power.
Link:
(http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-intro.html)
"And wouldn't a few hundred million dollars of US aid money spent on girls' schools and boys' schools in places like rural Pakistan go further than regime change at the point of a gun in reducing militant Islam's hold?"
Amen, Sister. One of the Greek historian's observed that the chief differences among the Greek city states arose out of the differences in the disciplines of their schools. A few schools and a couple of decades would make all the difference.
Doppler
Posted by: Doppler at September 29, 2004 02:09 PMIn the interest of making the middle east a level playing field.
Maybe instead of 500 smart bombs someone ought to send
a delegation to Israel to discuss the current trend in Israel to not just to trample on women's rights, but that to daily
become less like a western democracy and more like the Islamic cultures the press often castigates.
From the department of State:
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2001/nea/8262.htm
Discrimination and societal violence against women persists, although the Government continued to take steps to address the problems. Discrimination against persons with disabilities persists. The Government made little headway in reducing institutional, legal, and societal discrimination against Israel's Arab citizens, who constitute approximately 20 percent of the population but do not share fully the rights provided to, and obligations imposed on, the country's Jewish citizens. Demonstrations and clashes between the police and Israeli Arabs in October 2000 brought renewed attention to the different treatment accorded to the Jewish and Arab sectors of the country. The Government did not take significant, tangible steps to improve the situation of the country's Arab citizens during the year. In October 2000, the Government approved a $975 million economic assistance plan for Arab citizens to be phased in over 4 years; however, some human rights groups criticized the plan as inadequate. No money for the plan was disbursed during the year. There were a number of instances of societal violence between Jewish and Arab citizens during the year. Trafficking in women for the purpose of forced prostitution is a continuing problem.
_____________________________________________________________
news about women's right to use the Western Wall in Jerusalem: "A 15-year struggle by women's group for equal access to Jerusalem's Western Wall ended in failure this week, when Israel's Supreme Court ordered that women should pray at a site near--but not in--the broad plaza that fronts the wall, the Los Angeles Times reported." Ampersand offers some good thoughts on this, read his post, please.
When I visited Israel almost three years ago the Western Wall was one of the first things we went to see (it was an organized trip). I was shocked by the gender division of the site. It's good to know that a group has been fighting for women's rights to have access to the Wall. It's sad to know that their efforts have been met with this kind of opposition.
Posted by: Manoppello at September 29, 2004 06:08 PMAnd then there is this....Dear General Powell, please deduct a few smart bombs and instead forward the money to Mevoi Satum..
http://www.hrw.org/wr2k1/women/women6.html
In Israel, an amendment to the Equal Rights for Women Law was passed in March 2000. The amendment deals with, inter alia, equal social rights for women in all spheres of life: the right of women over their bodies, protection against violence and trafficking, and representation for women in the public sector. The equality proposed by this law extended to all spheres of life except family life. Issues of marriage and divorce continued to be exclusively within the jurisdiction of the religious courts, be they Jewish, Christian, Muslim, or Druze. These courts controlled women's lives and their right to administer their lives. For example, under these religious courts, women did not have equal access to divorce. According to the Israel Women's Network, thousands of Jewish women continued to be a gunot, "chained" women whose husbands refused to divorce them. Mevoi Satum (Impasse), an Israeli organization dedicated to helping a gunot, estimated that over 97 percent of men who deny their wives a divorce were physically abusive.
Posted by: Manoppello at September 29, 2004 06:20 PMAnd while you are at General Powell would you mind coming
through on this very important promise!
"(Powell promised a dossier in Arabic spelling out evidence of Bin Laden's responsibility for 9/11. This was never done, to my knowledge. A serious oversight.)."
"What's wrong with this culture?"
These types of horrible crimes - "honor" rapes and murders - aren't even unique to Muslim society.
Honor Killings on the Rise in India: Women's Group
Rahul Verma
OneWorld South Asia
12 January 2004
NEW DELHI, Jan 12 (OneWorld) - Indian women activists have called for an urgent change in the country's laws to counter the uncontrolled rise of "honor killings" in India, saying they comprise ten percent of all killings in the northern Indian states of Haryana and Punjab.
Honor killings -- where men and women are killed by their kin or members of their caste (an ancient Hindu categorization originally based on occupation) -- are also rampant in the western part of the northern province of Uttar Pradesh.
"This violence is committed in the name of saving the "honor" of the community, caste or family," says a leading Indian women's group, the All India Democratic Women's Association (AIDWA) in a resolution passed in the Indian capital, New Delhi.
At a conference held by AIDWA, Sunday, victims of violence narrated tales of killings, rape and humiliation. Most of these honor killings were ordered by so-called caste panchayats, or informal courts comprising members of a particular caste, which decide all matters concerning them.
"A caste panchayat is a self-proclaimed body consisting of village elders or the elite," explains AIDWA general secretary Brinda Karat. "Women are excluded from the body," she says.
The caste panchayats sit in judgment on matters of marital or domestic discord or on issues relating to land. Often, villagers give precedence to the judgment of a caste panchayat rather than that delivered by the legal panchayat -- a constitutional body of men and women elected by villagers to decide local issues.
While most such crimes go unrecorded, AIDWA warns that honor killings are on the rise in India. In Muzaffarnagar, the worst affected district of Uttar Pradesh, 13 cases of honor killings were reported in the first nine months of 2003, up from ten in 2002.
Some 35 couples were also declared missing during this period.
Most honor killings revolve around run-away marriages or relationships between two people from different castes. There were several instances of a groom or bride being killed by irate family members for marrying someone from a so-called lower caste.
A prime example is that of Geeta Rani of Hoshiarpur of Punjab, whose husband, Jasveer, was killed by a group of people from his village last month. Rani and Jasveer both were from different castes, with Jasveer's killers belonging to Rani's caste.
"They cut off his hands and legs and then killed him for "daring" to marry one of "their" women," recounts Rani.
In another instance, a woman from Uttar Pradesh who belonged to a caste of barbers -- considered by traditional Hindu society as one of the lower castes --was repeatedly raped and finally killed by a group of higher caste Yadav men.
Her crime? Her son had married a girl from the socially and economically more prosperous Yadav caste.
AIDWA says forms of violence differ, ranging from public lynchings and murders to rape. In some cases, people's faces were blackened or heads shaved off. Some were forced to eat excreta or drink urine, while others faced social boycott.
In its resolution AIDWA says that, "Central to such violence is the subordinate position of women and girls in all castes and communities. Women are viewed as the property of the family, the caste and the community. A woman's chastity is the "honor" of the community."
AIDWA has called for strict measures to stem the rise of honor killings, including a ban on all decisions of caste panchayats that violate the Indian Constitution, which has abolished castes and regards men and women as equal.
It has also called for changing the law to allow courts to intervene in all crimes where violence is committed in the name of "honor."
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