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US Intelligence's Grim Forecast for Iraq. From the New York Times' Douglas Jehl:
A classified National Intelligence Estimate prepared for President Bush in late July spells out a dark assessment of prospects for Iraq, government officials said Wednesday.
The estimate outlines three possibilities for Iraq through the end of 2005, with the worst case being developments that could lead to civil war, the officials said. The most favorable outcome described is an Iraq whose stability would remain tenuous in political, economic and security terms.
"There's a significant amount of pessimism," said one government official who has read the document, which runs about 50 pages. The officials declined to discuss the key judgments - concise, carefully written statements of intelligence analysts' conclusions - included in the document. . .
Separate from the new estimate, Republicans on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee issued other warnings on Wednesday about the American campaign in Iraq, saying the administration's request to divert more than $3 billion to security from the $18.4 billion aid package of last November was a sign of trouble.
"Although we recognize these funds must not be spent unwisely," the committee chairman, Mr. Lugar said, "the slow pace of reconstruction spending means that we are failing to fully take advantage of one of our most potent tools to influence the direction of Iraq."
Less than $1 billion has been spent so far.
The committee's ranking Democrat, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, one of the harshest critics of the Iraq policies, was far more outspoken. "The president has frequently described Iraq as, quote, 'the central front of the war on terror,' " Mr. Biden went on. "Well by that definition, success in Iraq is a key standard by which to measure the war on terror. And by that measure, I think the war on terror is in trouble."
I wonder if the neocons will put Jehl on the 'enemies list' I am told they are creating of articles and reporters they don't like, or, I suppose, find threatening. After all, not only is Jehl reporting a brutally grim forecast for Iraq, but he's citing the National Intelligence Council for his forecast, and we all know the neocons' dim view of the US intelligence community (granted, their own pronouncements about Iraq and Chalabi's virtue and WMD have hardly come to pass, but they apparently believe they should be given a pass on any demands for accountability. They demand nothing less than amnesia of us.)
There's something just fascistic about that sort of behavior of creating an enemies' list. Seriously fascistic. To try to target people who are trying to report the truth.
The neocons call those reporting unfavorably on Iraq, on the FBI counterintelligence investigation of alleged espionage and who allegedly leaked US Iran intel to Chalabi, etc. McCarthyites. But who's really McCarthyite?
Let's be clear about what is going on here. They are trying to intimidate people from reporting on an existing investigation. To act as if it does not exist, as if that will make it go away. They are not just saying the allegations are not true, which they have a right to say, if that's their opinion. They are obviously not the judge or jury. They are trying to make it illegitimate to even report on the investigation at all. As if reporting on its existence is in and of itself an unethical act. Think about it. Would they also want us not to report on allegations of, say, Saudi espionage in the US, or of Congressional investigations into terrorist finance? No, they champion that. What about French espionage at, say, NATO? We've heard of those cases during the Kosovo war. No, they champion reporting on that. They just want to prevent reporting on an existing investigation into who allegedly leaked US Iran intel to Chalabi and Aipac. Does that investigation make some of those people uncomfortable? Sure. Does that give them a right to try to threaten and intimidate people trying to report on it? To understand and report what the investigation is about? An investigation, after all, that the reporters did not create, but government agencies did? That's insane.
Bush, the Neo-cons & the Nazi's http://memes.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3240&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Posted by: Jo at September 16, 2004 08:26 AMLaura - This is indeed distressing news, on both fronts.
Have you personally been leaned on regarding this investigation?
Distressing indeed. Hang in there and keep up the good work.
Posted by: fnook at September 16, 2004 09:28 AMCould you name the names of who the specific "neo-cons" are who are compiling and sheltering this list? How high within the administration does there power penetrate? Does not the administration itself maintain lists quite similar to this - across a broad array of policy issues?
Finally, how many more American kids will have to be sacrificed before this untethered neo-con fantasy is fully exposed - and a full restitution demanded?
Posted by: comenius at September 16, 2004 09:33 AMLaura, which "government officials" do you think were the ones who talked to Jehl about this NIE? I don't mean specific names, but I'm just generally wondering who's behind the leak. Disgruntled people at State and/or CIA, as per usual throughout the Iraq adventure?
Posted by: Haggai at September 16, 2004 09:43 AMBy and large the smothering of reporting on Iraq has been successful. Since the end of June, there has been little accurate reporting, creating the post-Labor Day reevaluation that things have suddenly gone south.
This is belied by reports like those appearing recently in the New York Times normalizing events of June, July and August (like insurgent control of substantial areas in Iraq) that went unreported at the time.
It has been obvious for some time that no national elections will be held in January, but as that topic trickles into the news, it is up for debate.
Since the press never reports on itself, how many months will go by before the story of how the summer's news from Iraq was handled? Look at how long it took for things like the INC's manipulation of the WMD news took to get noticed -- and still not dispositively addressed.
It would be rather nice to have some of the targets of Neocon intimidation step forward and push back a little, but that's probably too much to hope for.
Posted by: Warbaby at September 16, 2004 10:21 AMIs it possible the Bush administration is just trying to keep the lid on until November elections, after which they will announce plans to pull out of Iraq a la Derb's "speech" over at NRO? Nothing else makes much sense at this point. I have never been so confused.
Posted by: Luke Lea at September 16, 2004 10:32 AMLook at Laura getting all worked up. You've been a reporter for over 15 years right? I've personally heard much worse than an "enemies list" being thrown out there when the folks I worked for had their reputations on the line over a reporter's stories.
There is no accountability for bad reporting, none. The damage is done, tough luck. Some reporters need to be reminded to get the facts nailed down before they file. Right?
Posted by: stewart at September 16, 2004 10:40 AMSteve Rosen's been known to get reporters and editors fired before, why the surprise?
Posted by: dk at September 16, 2004 11:06 AMLaura: Keep the conversation going. The "facts" at best will always be open to dispute at some level. The important thing is to question what and how policy makers, governements, analysts, etc, choose to make use of the facts before them....to regard utopian theorists with every bit as much suspicion as conspiracy theorists.
Posted by: alan at September 16, 2004 11:43 AMOT concerning the FBI investigation of Franklin/AIPAC/OSP.
Article titled "As Leaks Dry Up in FBI Investigation, Activists Still Fear Jury Probe."
http://forward.com/main/article.php?ref=nir200409151143
Posted by: Carswell at September 16, 2004 11:58 AM"Less than $1 billion has been spent so far."
If the level of pessism is as high as everyone states, and has been for months as they have inferred. Therein lies the reason.
If Bush decides to pull out of Iraq he isn't going to leave 80 billion dollars of improvements and reparations behind. He is essentially admitting that it would only serve the cause of the enemy. And the enemy would be Osama Bin Laden and the Sunni terrorist organizations first, and Shiite Iran second.
That is not a good signal to send to your enemies or your friends.
By not spending this money Bush, as Biden infers, is admitting that the situation is not just deteriorating but that he is actually losing the war on terror. That he "bit off more than he can chew." That the military is overextended and the diplomacy has resulted in a complete and utter failure. Sistani is now attempting to take up the work that Bush is supposed to have already completed.
By all accounts everyone says that Kerry is an intelligent man. Yet he seems to fritter away these opportunites. I suspect that he, like Jane Fonda, still suffer from the effects of their activist protests against the Vietnam war. He has become overly cautious to the point of paranoia; he follows the lead of advisors who caution him against speaking to reporters on his own aircraft. This makes it very difficult for voters to see him in the role of Commander and Chief, and in today's world that is Job #1.
As a result he is going to lose this election.
"There's something just fascistic about that sort of behavior of creating an enemies' list. Seriously fascistic. To try to target people who are trying to report the truth."
As I recall, it was McCarthy and Richard Nixon who made such lists. The Nixon list would seem more apropos. At that time many felt honored to be on "Nixon's list".
Hmmm (Neo-Con == NiX-On) the "X" in Nixon is of course the Nazi swastika.
Posted by: Manoppello at September 16, 2004 12:43 PM> 1) Cite anything by Juan Cole.
What happens to you if you're 'self-hating'? Do they have a reeducation kibbutz or something?
>Warren Strobel at Knight-Ridder has used Lyndon LaRouche associates as sources and the White House has let his stories go unchallenged, even when completely fictional.
Like Dennis Hastert?
>But, I guess Wright and Strobel have become useful idiots to some.!
These are kiddie games. (That's the problem with these guys - it's like a kiddy clubhouse. 'Girlz and reporters keep out.' How can you fight a war intelligently if you're acting like nutless tween?)
The uncomfortable reality is that you are undoubtably on a (serious) list somewhere and so am I. (Even if I didn't make posts here.) If push comes to shove, they'll drag the lot of us away.
But if push comes to shove, it won't be these kiddiewinkies doing the sorting.
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damn, I'm glad I keep saving updates before they go down the memory hole. quick, put up all of Rubin's memo. how much resembles this:
http://www.nationalreview.com/rubin/rubin200405190844.asp
To start, where is this list? Can you provide any more information on what it is. Can you tell me with any certainty what the "neocons" want to do with it?
Also, who is trying to silence reporters? Do you know of a plan to use the power of the state to censor Robin Wright or Warren Strobel? Can you point to an example when these people were accused by someone of anti-semitism?
Finally, reporters get stuff wrong some times. Sometimes sources deliberately mislead reporters to advance an agenda. If some of the stories about the investigation, which is now going to a grand jury etc.., left the impression that people were Israeli spies when they are not, is it Nixonian to demand the record be set straight? Isn't it understandable that people who feel attacked by some journalists would want to write articles defending themselves, particularly if they feel wrongly accused?
When Mill talked about the marketplace of ideas he did not envision a public square that was free of debate. He encouraged it. Indeed his argument was that if false speech was allowed to be countered with true speech, then the truth would prevail. Are you saying that journalists are beyond reproach and should not be corrected when they get stuff wrong?
Posted by: elders of zion at September 16, 2004 04:54 PMdk,
In the interest of Dan Rather impartiality I must ask if you read the correction?
"In Michael Rubin's May 19, 2004, article "You Must Be Likud," Rubin made the statement that, "in the run-up to the war in Iraq, [Colonel Patrick] Lang (Ret.) was a registered agent of a foreign government." While a U.S. Department of Justice website linked to the Rubin article did show that Colonel Lang was registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act as an agent for private interests, he was not, in fact, an agent of a foreign government, and we regret the error. NRO's Editors"
I'm not sure, but I thought that a terrorist was someone who uses unprovoked, unexpected and lethal force, kidnapping, and the like in order to force his viewpoint, his ideaology, or his religion convictions on a vast numbers of people who do not see things from the terrorist's perspective. There seem to be far too many settlers in the westbank who might easily fall under that category. I think that neo-cons might fall under that category as well. As would the Aryan nation, the KKK, the NAZIs, etc.
For me, anti-semitism denotes racism. Most jews in the US and Israel do not fall under into that category. Arabs, on the other hand, for the most part, may fall under that category. If Rubin asserts that there is religious bias, bigotry or prejudice he should say so. IMHO when organizations and individuals like Mr. Rubin start accusing others of anti-semitism they appear to me to be falling into the same quagmire. They infer that Jews are a separate, and special race, chosen by God to be above others. This is the trap both the NAZIs and Japanese fell into during WWII. To use Rubin's example, I have never heard a Catholic claim to belong to a separate race. And in fact, historically, Catholicism began as an orthodox sect of Judiasm! Just as there were Seducees, Pharisees, and Eocenes, there were also Christians. Does this mean that Catholics are basically Jewish? Yes. Does it mean that Catholics belong to a separate race? Emphatically, no.
I believe that the notion that to be Jewish is to belong to a separate race, as opposed to a separate creed is a dangerous and self-defeating philosophy. In the end you are doomed to exactly mirror the people you so despise. Just look at the Middle East where Persians despise Iraqi Shiites because they are Arabs and different. They probably hate Arab Sunnis even more. And both completely despise the hated Kurds. Up until the fifties Jews received far better treatment and respect in Iran than did the Kurds and Arabs.
But, what seems worse, is when "anti-semitism" is used as a justification to confiscate and then annex lands that belong to over a million other people. It has even excused acts of blatant terrorism. Yet, the Arabs are a people who lived together in harmony and respect with Jews for almost a millennia. Despite religious differences Islam and Judaism walked together. The same cannot be said of Judiasm and its own distant sect Christianity. Why then would Jews wish to confiscate lands from the Arabs?
The words typically used to describe this sort of activity would be: terrorism, facism, imperalism, bigotry, prejudice, ethnic cleansing, etc. if not for the recent history of the holocaust and the religious denomination of the perpetrators.
Viktor Frankl, a real, no-fake-memos, survivor of three concentration camps said there must be responsibility along with freedom. That the highest instinct above hunger, procreation, and even survival is man's will to meaning.
in that context, I do not believe that the perpetrators are behaving as responsible members of their religious faith by their actions. They trample mud upon the gift of freedom bestowed.
They blaspheme against the very faith they claim to follow.
I also wonder why the $18 billion has not been spent. The admin quotes regarding what has been spent are getting peculiarly smaller. The Times article Laura cites states only $1 billion of the $18 billion has been spent. I read an article within the last few weeks that quoted a Bush admin official as saying that about $7 billion has been spent. And from what spending stream was the so-called "missing $8 billion" taken from? If the United Nations is investigating it, then it has to be from one of the 3 Iraqi funds the UN oversees. Is this part of the funds that the CPA 'borrowed' from the Iraqi Oil Fund? I thought I'd read a Bremer quote that we have to repay that back to the Oil Fund.
If we have spent $1 billion, and approx $4 billion is to be used for security expenses (those 20,000 mercs get a minimum of $500 per day) and we owe the Oil Fund $8 billion, this may explain why the $18 billion isn't being spent. There is less than $5 billion left. I'd like to see an accounting of monies spent from Michael Ledeen's daughter. After all, this young 20 something, with a brand new MBA and no budget/finance experience, was given responsibility for the country of Iraq's budget.
She may be a sharp, perfectly nice person, but if she didn't have the qualifications to be hired, for example, as budget manager for a US town of 10,000, I think she should have said 'I am not qualified to manage the budget of a country of 25 million people' when she was offered the position in the CPA. I'd like to hear an accounting from her regarding the CPA official who stole $40,000 from a grant for the Iraqi soccer team and gambled it away.
Abu Graib was the disgraceful result of asking to few people to handle an enormous task. Fiscal mismangement in the CPA resulted in behavior just as disgraceful but lacking sexual undertones. So, we will never have a full investigation regarding all the misdeeds from the Green Zone.
Posted by: Lansing at September 16, 2004 08:51 PMManoppello, you're right, I missed it. does that mean Rubin didn't write the memo as Marc Perelman reported?
my only reason to link to the NRO article was the similarity in sentnce structure in both it and the memo, regarding Lang. none other.
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The following is "operationally" related to the concerns addressed above. Please, spread the following idea around by blogging, e-mail, on discussion boards, through letters, etc. The clumsy handling of the ANG memos by CBS can be turned to our advantage! Why? Because it parallels the carelessness of the Bush administration about the Iraq war!
Make the point that what the Bush Administration did about war intelligence was far worse than CBS being duped by fake memos. Not only did BushCo accept false intel, they stimulated it. As for forgery, remind voters that the Bush administration should get the same smoking over the forged Niger papers as so many are calling for in the case of CBS. Yet some RWM cranks said that Bush should *receive* an apology from the CIA for getting bad intelligence! Finally, which shoddy handling of bad feeds did more damage: CBS's, which basically just hurt themselves and the Democrats, or BushCo's, which cost billions of dollars and thousands of lives? Spread this meme!
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Red Reptile, Great! But, I think I would say "wasted" instead of "cost". If the neo-cons little adventure fails, and Bush brings the troops home, that will surely bring Afghanistan down as well. Just as Laos and Cambodia went after the fall of Vietnam. That means that after all the bloodshed and billions in treasure spent nothing was accomplished. In fact things might become drastically worse.
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